Eric P. Dollard, Wireless Engineer, is a scientist who bases his work on observation of phenomenon and practical experimentation. He [was] the Vice-President of BSRF and the author of five published papers on electrical phenomena: "Condensed Intro to Tesla Transformers", "Dielectric and Magnetic Discharges in Electrical Windings", "Symbolic Representation of Alternating Waves", "Symbolic Representation of the Generalized Electric Wave (In Time)", and "The Theory of Wireless Power". In the course of Eric's research he has investigated the works of Nikola Tesla, Charles Proteus Steinmetz, Philo Taylor Farnsworth II, Johann Sebastian Bach, Wilhelm Reich and other true Scientists of our era. I have personally witnessed the propagation of electricity without wires, the phenomenon of drawing several inch sparks off insulators and mysterious living forms in plasma gas bulbs connected to Eric's Tesla apparatus. Eric speaks a knowledge gained by hands on ·experience. This interview will certainly change your point of view about the Borderlands of Science and will certainly shatter any preconceived notions you once had about Tesla, Free Energy, ELF, The American Dream, etc ••••.
Tom: What first interested you . in the works of Nikola Tesla and electrical engineering in general.
Eric: I've always been interested in the subject. Years ago someone gave me a copy of Co-Evolution Quarterly that had an article on Nikola Tesla, Philo Farnsworth and Edwin Armstrong. That got me thinking about what was going on as I had basically reinvented the Tesla coil as a teenager using equipment given to me by RCA. Things started to connect at that point. Then I read PRODIGAL GENIUS (by John O'Neill) and it was like I was hit with a bolt of lightning. That book shocked me into action.
T: What do you think that Tesla was trying to attempt in his work?
E: Its hard to sum that all up in one phrase.
T: Would the culmination be the transmission of electrical energy without wires?
E: That was part of his projects, using what could be called true single phase electricity, ~r mono-polar electricity. That's the key to his transmission of electrical and mechanical energy - to convert it to a single phase form.
T: Would you say that monopolar electricity is electromagnetic?
E: No, its anti-electromagnetic.
T: You mentioned Philo Farnsworth, what type of work was he doing?
E: Farnsworth built the multipactor tube, a secondary emission, negative resistance tube. It tends to take off when connected to apparatus such as a Tesla coil and exhibit electrical oscillations.
T: So, to use a catch-word of the day, it was a free energy device?
E: Yes, probably the only real free energy device that anyone ever demonstrated which can be reproduced.
T: Was there any relationship between the work of Tesla and that of Farnsworth?
E: They are really in totally opposite directions. Farnsworth was the high master of electronics ••• he was electronics. No one knew more about the electron than Farnsworth Tesla was dealing with ether type forces that don•t involve material or atomic particles, they involve something a little finer than that. T: You have worked extensively with Tesla coils and we have published your books on the subject. What do you f eel is the actual use of these apparatus?
E: As a transmitter-receiver device, for transmitting energy without transmission towers or large arrays of dipoles, or equivalent.
T: What is the medium for the transmission of energy if wires are not used?
E: Whatever the general media is around us, call it the ether, or air or you can transmit it through the ground. Basically it just flows. The Tesla system is designed to transmit through the ground~ There's a lot of talk about propagating through the earth-ionosphere wave guide, which Tesla., in no way, shape or form envisioned. Most of his apparatus are for transmission through a common conducting medium and the earth is the best conducting medium available. The devices are one conductor electrical generators - just connect one terminal to the common conducting medium and all the other one terminal devices will receive the energy. There's no pairs of wires or wave guides to bound the energy. These are what are called unbounded waves. The Tesla Magnifying Transmitter is a converter which converts electromagnetic energy into what is called magneto-dielectric energy
T: What exactly is the dielectric side of Electricity?
E: The side of electricity that represents the faster than light phenomenon.
T: How does the dielectric relate to Reich's orgone energy?
E: Reich found that the orgone and the dielectric field are basically one and the same. If a dielectric field has the proper pulsations then you could almost call it the orgone energy. An example of this is the orgone accumulator, which is alternating layers of dielectric and reflecting material, like a capacitor. The reflecting is usually called the conducting in electrical engineering work but this is based on misconceptions from the 18th and 19th century with regards to how electricity flows. Its well known that electricity doesn't flow through wires, but that's the conception that most people carry around in their heads. Of course people used to think the earth was flat, too. Reich's dogma assumed that the insulating or dielectric material had . to be organic, but of course he was using glass wool and its stretching the term organic by applying it to glass wool. You could say the glass wool is organic because the silicon dioxide has two atoms of oxygen, but that's not really true.
T: Have you found any evidence in your research relating the dielectric field to orgone energy?
E: Yes, the cosmic superimposition effect. If you take a low pressure gas (in a bulb) and place it in two superimposed dielectric fields then you get spiral formations such as Reich wrote about in his book COSMIC SUPERIMPOSITION. These formations appear as spheres, galaxies and other cosmic forms.
T: So the high voltage terminal of a properly built Tesla transmitter puts out a dielectric field?
E: Right - a dielectric current - a current of many amperes flowing through free space without any electrons. This is a true electrical current.
T: Is this as you've demonstrated to me where you can draw a several inch spark off the insulator, which of course isn't supposed to happen? E: Right, an insulator isn't supposed to conduct electricity so how can you draw a spark off of it? (laughter)
T: One thing I've noticed in these discharges is that they look like plants, like something organic, unlike regular discharges which look erratic and sparky. What explanation do you have for this? E: Their shape is basically the Golden Ratio spiral. The log periodic spiral projecting out into space with all angles determined by the Golden Ratio. Now this is also the same shape that living objects form and you find that all discharges, in general, of potential energy will try to form this shape. You can see it in water patterns in sand and patterns in clouds in the sky. The patterns appear over and over and over again, just like the organic patterns burned into wood by the discharge of my Tesla coil. This is connected with the orgone right there. This type of monopolar electricity is in such a form that it will grow into organic patterns, a pre-life pattern from the,, ether itself. Any type of energy like this such as a stream flowing down the side of a mountain, a crack in a piece of window glass, or fresh water percolating up through the sand on a beach all make these organic patterns based on the Golden Ratio. Any time you have energy discharging you find this type of pattern. Of course this ties in directly with what Viktor Schauberger was saying. His work is actual proof of it. You can say there is a shape in space which is the log periodic spiral. It doesn't exist in a tangible form because it is something that grows and decays. Its size fits the wavelength and frequency of the amount of energy to be discharged. Its not like you can map space to see this particular spiral, but if you release energy into space then the spiral will appear. T: I've heard that Tesla made references in his work to using a TMT for bringing in storms. Do you feel that there is any relationship between what Tesla was doing and what Reich was doing with his cloudbuster?E: I haven't read too much information which indicates that Tesla was trying to control the weather. He makes scant references here and there about how weather-like phenomena appear, such as fog appearing in his laboratory , but that wasn't Tesla's particular aim, where Reich's particular aim was in dealing directly with the actual forces. We have to remember that Tesla was a mechanistic, Victorian personality and he was trying to build machines that related to horsepower hours and BTUs and things everybody was concerned with at the time, and turn the globe into a giant amusement park.
T: Such as his plan to light up the atmosphere at night?
E: Right, you would never be able to see the stars, you'd just have the sound of electrical apparatus roaring everywhere. People weren't ready for Nikola Tesla.
T: I get the feeling that you don't approve of Tesla's final vision for the earth.
E: Not the way he represented the ideas, but what's interesting about the technology he made available, when used in perspective, is actually quite healthy for the planet. Then you're dealing with energies that take on organic shapes and you're one step closer to the type of energy that Reich theorized and made some actual physical discoveries of.
T: There's some popular literature on the market today claiming that the strange weather patterns the earth has been experiencing over the last ten years or so are being caused by Soviet use of Tesla apparatus. Have you done any research which would confirm or deny such claims?
E: The claims are basically groundless. I did a four year research project at Sonoma State University (California) involving the relationship between the planets in general, the sun and the weather on this planet, and the effects of solar flares on the weather, the effects of planetary alignments on solar flares, the effects of these things on radio propagation, earthquake activity, and tried to tie the geometries of all these energy patterns together. I found the weather patterns were very tightly coupled to the solar flare cycles, the Russians really don't have anything to do with this. Any effect the Russian Woodpecker signal would seem to have on it would be purely incidental because during these periods of intense solar flares signals like the woodpecker would be sounding louder and propagating better. Maybe its an advantageous point for the Russians to utilize the signal. This seems to be the case. But to think that the woodpecker is making solar flares on the sun and controlling the times at which the planets align is absolutely absurd! As far as all these geometric patterns being seen in the sky, the Indians and other ancients knew about these patterns and they look like the patterns generated by mundane forces such as water and dielectricity.
T: What do you feel the woodpecker is and what is its use?
E: Its a non-Hertzian, shortwave signal which could be used for one of two things. Either its used for sounding and exploring the electrical system of the planet or more likely its a cryptographic signal utilizing the spread spectrum technology of frequency hopping and direct sequencing modulation. It is not an ELF signal!
T: Then the cloud patterns are the indicators of cosmic flux?
E: Exactly. A well trained observer can look at the sky and it serves as a metering of the -intensity of the cosmic energy which exists at a particular point in space and time. I've utilized this during periods of heavy solar flares to get an idea of the flare's more subtle characteristics by watching the geometries they produce in space, particularly at the intervals when the solar flares have stopped and all the earth is receiving the discharge from the flares. These discharges produce very profound cloud patterns and of course heavy rain. So the heavy rain cycles were produced by the enormous flares of solar cycle 21, which were cranked out between 1978 and 1982. The flares were most intense around 1978 and as the flares died down we got an upward cycle of precipitation. Now we're at the point where the energy has mostly fizzled out and the weather is fairly indeterminate from the solar-terrestrial physics standpoint.
T: In January we've received reports that the coldest temperatures on record have hit England and on the same day we got a report of an abnormally high 46° temperature in Antarctica. Dog sleds have to be run at night because of the heat. My research shows that some of the major contributing factors to the erratic weather patterns have been the mass deforestation of rainforests to produce toilet paper and newsprint, and also nuclear testing which is also directly related to earthquake and volcanic activity.
E: You have to keep in mind that mass deforestation and large amounts of thermodynamic and nuclear energy are going to have a much stronger effect than the subtle energies coming from the planets and the sun. Deforestation and nuclear energy are definitely going to be dominant influences. Being that the size of the earth and the scope of the phenomena are so large, and the frequency of events is slow, its going to take a while to see exactly what effect all these destructive actions are going have. It seems as though everyone intuitively knows that life is going to thoroughly disrupt and things are going to get pretty bad. You just can't keep whacking on the earth and expect things not to start changing.
T: There has been a lot of varying literature on the polar shift appearing over the last 30-40 years. One aspect which I've pursued is the magnetic reversal o: the poles. In some of the Native American prophecies they say that the earth will get very hot and then very cold, and then things will balance out again. Does this relate to any electrical phenomena as you understand it?
E: At the point at which the earth's magnetic field equals zero, which happens between maximum positive and maximum negative the planet will cease to be a magnetic energy type of situation and become a dielectric energy type of situation. In most spatial geometry systems which contain electric energy the point of zero magnetic energy is the point of maximum dielectric energy. Interestingly enough, for navigational purposes you wouldn't be able to use iron, or magnetic, permeability type materials anymore. You'd have to start using dielectric permeability materials like ceramic for compasses.
T: Would this be a short lived situation?
E: It would be in balanced proportion to the magnetic and it is probably going en right now, but it is not generally acknowledged due to the lack of measuring instruments. Physicists have focused their attention strictly on magnetism. In a newspaper article I was looking through the other day I saw that the physicists now have an even bigger magnet so they can smash atoms ever harder and find more little tiny fragments to catalog and confuse themselves. What could be quirkier than a quark?_ (laughter)
T: If this is happening right now and there is a dielectric propagation during the changeover of the magnetic poles could this in some way account for the shifting of orgone streams and be a part of the phenomena of the strange weather we've been having?
E: Yes, it could definitely tie in. You're talking about a whole different spatial geometry emerging as far as how electrical energy is distributed so you're going to have all kinds of effects. The weather is filling in patterns that already exist in space determined by all these fields of force, most of which we don't even know about yet. Tesla was able to open up a door into all these things, but he really didn't explain how to do it. There are other flux fields that can be measured with his apparatus that get more into this dielectric type of situation. Tesla was successful in measuring the amount of charge on the planet, but no one really knows how he did that. That would be an experiment to try. The velocity of light continually changes which changes the capacity of all capacitors and changes the effect of orgone. A fundamental property of an orgone accumulator is that the dielectric material, which Reich called the organic material, serves the purpose of slowing down the velocity of light trying to draw in the orgone energy. Then the metallic layers reflect the electromagnetic part but the dielectric part penetrates through it without even seeing what's going on. The accumulator serves as a magneto-dielectric separator. I don't know if Reich would go along with this. He had his own way of looking at it.
T: In science one has to look at different ways of viewing things if progress is to take place.
E: The important thing about Wilhelm Reich is not so much his apparatus or his theories but his concept of functional thinking. If you know the basic patterns of nature then you have no problem seeing all these phenomena. You have no problem looking up in the sky, knowing what all the cloud patterns n~ an. You have no problem developing apparatus to work with these energies because you just basically know. The great minds such as Johann Sebastian Bach and Nikola Tesla worked with these types of situations. You could say that all their work is based on archetypal forms. That's what makes their inventions or music so powerful. They were discoverers and not just inventors or composers or whatever kinds of names are put on these types of people. They go beyond that, they have tapped in and can see these fundamental shapes and geometries that everyone else is numb to. Viktor Schauberger is most important for bringing these things do~:n to a practical level. If you make the right shapes then organic energy or water flow becomes easily manageable, that is, engineerable. He only intuitively knew a lot of this so it still wasn't worked in engineering science. If you bring in Tesla, Reich and, interestingly enough, Johann Sebastian Bach (who plays a~ important part in this) then you begin to find the nature of this basic form. If WE take Tesla's three phase electricity, or rotating magnetic field, we find that it is based on the archetypal form known as the solar cross or by various ether names.
T: Mandalas, medicine wheels?
E: Right, these are four quadrant types of forms, a balanced cross as opposed to an unbalanced cross.
T: This is where you get the Four Quadrant Theory of Electricity?
E: Right, electricity has to be viewed from a four quadrant type of situation. The right angle plays an extremely fundamental role in