Thanks Tina for the picture
https://youtu.be/5U4S4ki4YZs?si=KLghxZxEmD1da-sH Why creating is crucial to human existence | Godfrey Reggio, Steve Albini, and Fred Armisen
From the description: "In this episode of Dispatches from The Well, Kmele Foster continues his search for the meaning of life inside the minds of some of the world’s most creative visionaries. "