DGS DHINAKARAN OF INDIA 3 HEAVEN VISITATIONS 3
Several years ago, I saw a tape called "Beyond and Back" which was about the real-life experiences of people, the Near Death Experiences (NDEs) of people who went to the unknown and returned with startling revelations about life after death.
One lady and her husband, they were going by a private plane and in that plane, they had a problem. The plane nosedived and they had a plane crash. The husband was killed on the spot, and the lady escaped with so many fractures and so on.
And after recovery, she was talking to her priest to get some explanation. She said, "I was in a coma all these days as I was involved in the accident. In the coma, I could see my husband standing there in the spirit. But it looked as if exactly he was clothed in the same clothes in which he was flying the plane." In the coma state, she was able to watch her husband getting up from his body, but it looked as if he's dressed in the same pants and coat. And then his hands outstretched and she saw another person, the Lord Jesus Christ. He looked as if he was asking Him, "Lord, forgive me, but take me to heaven. And then she said to the priest, "Why did you bury him without shoes?" The priest asked, "How did you know?" "I was in a coma but the Lord showed me that you buried him without his shoes."
She saw him in the tomb without his shoes. She saw his physical body being buried without shoes. So when she saw her husband's spirit leaving the body, he looked as if he were in the same clothes, even looking to Jesus as if he's asking for His forgiveness.
In heaven, when I saw those millions of souls coming in, they were dressed in the same clothes when they died.
As I said, their spirits, their souls whatever it is, their inward man, they have a glory after going there to heaven. Suppose a man dies at the age of 80, his age is reduced from 80 to 30 and how he looked at the age of 30. 30 is the perfect age for a person. The growth stops there. When Joseph took over, he was 30. When the Precious Lord took over the ministry, He was 30.
So likewise in heaven, age is reduced. Everyone looks like how they were when they were 30 and they are given the glory of the Lord and he looks totally different. But if the Lord Jesus Christ decides today that Dhinakaran will talk to Moses, Moses will appear exactly as he was in this world. That is the supernatural part of the encounter. So without His supernatural power, you cannot pull them back and make them remember their earthly life but at the same time, He will make you by His power to identify them. Normally you can see them in the last dress worn by them because of the last dress which you bury them to see.
So I have seen my own precious daughter, Evangeline several times and I've seen her in the last red Sari she was buried in. Just to make me be 100% sure this is Evangeline, you see the Sari which I buried her, I bought it only for that and nothing else. She doesn't need a Sari. She is in the glory in the Spirit.
So in heaven, sometimes not always, sometimes you will see the group of people, I do not know, probably the Waldensian group, I do not know, I am not very sure but these people would be singing the glory of God in their language which they had when they were in this world. Suppose they were from France, they were singing praises to God in French and the angels of God would go there. Angels of God are always busy but sometimes they will also stand there, they will also sing in French. They enjoy listening to them sing and join them singing in the same language just to make them happy and they will pass off. And the trees would be singing the same thing and you see the flowers sing along with them. I do not know that really you can pluck them out but I have seen them singing there but it was only to make the people happy and comfortable.
The temperature in heaven is just light and you feel pleasant. Very pleasant there. The climate doesn't mean anything to you because you are in the Spirit. And then you see another place where the souls of the little children are millions and the spirits of babies grow until they attain the age of 30 in heaven. The old are reduced to the age of 30 and these children are allowed to grow to the age of 30.
Angels impart knowledge to them about Christ. Sometimes the Lord Jesus would go there. Oh, they follow Him, and He loves the souls of these children. One day when I was standing there, I saw an angel of God carrying the soul of a little child. He said this was found in the gutter, preparing to take him to heaven and teach these souls because without the knowledge of Christ no one can enter heaven.
John 14:6, I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by Me.
So the impartation of this knowledge is very necessary and being taught there, there is no time, it is an eternity. The knowledge of Christ is important.
Do the souls talk to each other, like the French souls and the English? Every person is transfixed to Jesus. Nothing is talked amongst themselves, nothing. There is a place where they canceled that but I will come to that later. So every soul just relates to Jesus and Jesus enjoys and experiences and eternity to eternity, they'll be happy.
So once I was going through much persecution, sorrow and discouragement, and despair, and one day the Lord the Holy Spirit took me to heaven and I saw the Lord Jesus. He looked into my heart but He never said anything. He called, "Peter, come here," and the Apostle Peter came. "This is my son, Dhinakaran. He is going through terrible times. Take him, show him around heaven and bring him back." Oh, he took me. Several hours I was away. So many places he showed me and one place it's a stream, just like as you have in this world. He said, "Come." "I am coming."
Peter is a hefty man, jolly good fellow. That's the only one word that fairly describes him - full of joy, full of happiness. He does not know what is sorrow, of course, everybody's like that in heaven. But that is his nature, an impetuous nature and he took me and we were going in the stream. He told me all about his failures. He did not speak to me in English. As I said, it is imparting, it is a language of the Spirit, but you understand it. So you feel as if he is talking to you, but there are times when the angels of God come or when the Lord Jesus comes, He speaks to you in a particular language. Say, if you know English, He will speak in English. If you speak in Tamil, He will speak in Tamil. So angels of God are also like that. I will come to that later.
Peter took me and when I saw those wonderful places, I forgot all about my sorrow. And then he finally brought me to Jesus. I was so much consoled and comforted. All the time he was telling me about the various failures that he had and he was with the Lord Jesus and how he failed Him. He said, "See, with all these failures, in His mercy and grace, He brought me to heaven. He will do the same thing for you. Be encouraged." I was really encouraged.
When I came before the throne of Christ, the Lord smiled and He said, "Son, would you like to stay here itself?" And I was about to say "Yes, Lord" but then the Holy Spirit came and I heard millions of voices mourning, crying in agony, sorrow, sadness, and despair. I said, "Lord, if I stay back here, who will help them? I will go." And He said, "Go," and I came back.
What happens when my spirit is out of my body and my granddaughter runs and touches my body?
That is an amazing thing. You see when I pray in my room, ordinarily, my grandchildren may make some noise. My wife may come in and take something out of the cupboard. Now, these things are not going to disturb me. My concentration is not affected.
However when I am taken out of the body and when I am in heaven, only for some time I am aware of what's happening in this room. The Almighty God is so wonderful, so wise, He never allows anyone to touch me when I am praying and caught away in the Spirit to heaven.
Normally people know that once I enter my room to pray, most of the times, I'm not there; only my physical body may be seen in the kneeling posture, sitting and praying or I may be speaking to God in the heavenly language and they know that I am in a supernatural realm. So normally they don't disturb me so I would say so far this has not happened. The Almighty God has probably sent me His holy angels to see that I am not disturbed
At those times, I am present in two places at that particular time and as the days pass by as the Bible says about Enoch in Genesis 5:22 Enoch walked with God and Genesis 6:9, Noah walked with God.
In due course, you may be sitting in a conference, in a very important discussion but you can still be aware of the presence of the Lord and the Holy Spirit telling you what you should now say. That is a heart to heart communication, you know and feel that your heavenly Father is around you and so you don't lose touch with Him. That is the greatest blessing of receiving the Holy Spirit. It keeps you all the time in touch with heaven and in touch with the people of this world also.
For example, one day three young men came to see me and they came with the intention of cornering me on some doctrine and they were putting so many questions. As you know, I never argue with anyone. Yes, if somebody says the donkey that carried the Lord Jesus had only three legs, I'd said, "That's right." It is really a waste of time getting into arguments.
There's a funny story. One day two people were talking about Jonah in the Bible. So when one man said, "Somehow I can't digest it. How can a man be in the belly of a fish for three days? No one falls for such nonsense." Then the other fellow said, "That's the first question I'm going to ask Jonah when I meet him in heaven." Then he said, "Suppose he's not there, what will you do?" "Surely he would be in hell and you can ask him because you're going there."
Revelation 21:8 says those who are afraid and those who have doubts always will end up in hell.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
So we were talking, I never waste time. So I just listened, went on listening. Then one fellow said that this is the way you should take water baptism, and the other fellow said this the name you should use and then another fellow said that this is a Father, Son, and Holy Ghost and I listened carefully.
And then I asked the chief of this delegation, "Very good. Have you finished?"
They said, "Yes, sir."
I said, "Everything is fine but why did you quarrel with your mother this morning? Why did you say when you quarreled with your mother so much and you shouted and say you're going to hang yourself?"
I wish you could see his face. Then they said, "Uncle, pray for us," and left abruptly. So I sincerely prayed for all the three.
So what I'm trying to say, as you begin to walk with Him, you may be in this world but still in your heart, you'll be in communion with Him. And all the time, I feel especially the presence of the holy angels of God. And especially sometimes when I go to preach, sometimes I feel very tired. I used to wonder how I'm going to make it, how am I going to preach.
In 1985, when I came out of the problem of my kidney failure, I saw the mighty angel Michael and he said, "I'll be always protecting you and your body. " When such situation comes, I may be sitting, I may feel my heart is pumping hard or some very physical discomfort, immediately I would see the Archangel Michael who tells me, "I am Michael. I am guarding your heart, guarding your kidney." It makes all the change, it makes all the difference to become a totally different person, then I just want to wait for the time to get up and minister.
So like that, after some time as you move with Him, you can be in this world but still be in touch with the Almighty God and His throne, His beloved Son, Jesus, and His wonderful and precious Holy Spirit. Of course, the holy angels of God.
Why am I always profusely sweating in the body after I have gone up in the Spirit and praying for a dying man to come back alive?
It is because of physical exertion. I have been there for one hour and 15 minutes. I'll tell you another example. Several years ago a servant of God was very, very sick and I heard the news. He sent word to inform Dhinakaran that his sickness is very serious. And I went there and the Lord showed me how he is, in what room he'll be, how he'll be like, how people will be surrounding him on the pretext of praying for him and so on. And He said, "When you go, ask all of them to get out and you tell him that I will heal him and then you pray, and then I will raise him up."
So I went there and I went straight to him and found even the same position in which I saw him in the vision. Then I went to him and shook his hand and said, "Pastor, Jesus told me He is going to raise you up." He cried. When I said I'd like to pray for him alone, he showed his hand and everybody was sent out and I knelt down to pray. I saw the Holy Spirit coming. Immediately this people who were sent out had crept in. They made a big noise. Some people can't contain the Holy Spirit and the anointing. We have been taught that way, that it's good to burst out in the speaking of the heavenly language and the anointing but when you are outside, it is very normal to able to contain yourself. First Corinthians 14:32 says, And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
But these people were not used to that. So they made a big noise and the Holy Spirit went back Again I prayed, five times it happened. And the sixth time when He came, I said, "Lord, if there is something between you and me, forgive me, but don't go away."
Then He came and just struck the body of this pastor. And I said, "Lord, healed him." And he said, "I am healed." And he just jumped out of the bed and ran over everybody. Those people who were watching, shouted all the more because he jumped over them also. And then I found the same thing, my whole clothes were totally drenched.
What do I say when you pray? It is not just your soul only praying, your whole body is praying also. Look at Elijah if you read First Kings 18. He bowed before God and his head was actually touching his ankles. So his body also is getting into praying.
1 Kings 18:42 And Elijah went up to the top of Carmel, and he cast himself down upon the earth and put his face between his knees.
The body is also involved in this process. Do I ever feel that it was too much for my body to bear an anointing that comes? At that time I don't feel anything. But once the anointing leaves me, then I feel so weak and tired, I feel like lying down.
I will talk about the second world in heaven. What exactly is the second world? Now you see if you read Psalm 135:14 there, the Bible says, For the Lord will vindicate His people and have compassion on His servants. Luke 9:23 says if anyone wants to come after Me, let him take up his cross, let him deny himself daily and follow Me.
So doing God's work is denial. Somebody told me the word "disciple" means laying himself at the altar of God, "Lord, I'm offering my soul, mind, and body like a sacrifice for You, in whichever way You want to use me, whichever path You want to make me go, let me go. My whole self is Yours. That's the meaning of the word "disciple". Such a one is a servant of God. So the servant of God passes through all kinds of misery.
To submit, you have to read Colossians 1:24. It contains a summary of the life of a real servant of God. The great Apostle Paul says, for your sakes, I bear upon my body, I rejoice to bear upon my body what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ, in the afflictions of Christ for the sake of the church which is His body. I bear upon my physical body, the afflictions of Christ, what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ. So exactly like the Lord Jesus, he suffered in his physical body also.
Col 1:24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for His body's sake, which is the church.
If you go to heaven even today, and as you look at the apostles, the body of Paul alone is different. It is true that he is in the spirit body, but still, you'll find his body with so much of scars and wounds and stripes because he says in First Corinthians 15:10 he worked and labored more than others. And in Second Corinthians 11:23 to 28, he lists the sufferings he went through, and he was stoned to death. He went through every physical suffering and affliction.
1 Cor 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and His grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain, but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
2Co 11:23-28 Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labors more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft. Of the Jews, five times received I forty stripes save one. Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness. Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.
So when Paul came to heaven, exactly as it says in Galatians 6:17, From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.
When he came, the Lord Jesus Christ, in His compassion, in His mercy, said, "Let the scars that he had in the physical body be retained in the spiritual body also." So Paul's appearance is so different, a very tiny man, skinny man, and very unimpressive person. But you see his body the heart is moved with compassion.
In 1993 I had a terrible attack of pneumonia and 24 hours, I was coughing, no sleep for 14 days. On the 14th night when a great physician, a noted physician, a famous doctor, and his team were working on my body for 24 hours. Almost eight times a day, he would come to see me in my room. He went to the door of the room, turn back to say goodnight and he said, "Mr. Dhinakaran, you've not slept for 14 nights." And I said, "Yes." He said, "I have also not slept because I just do not know what more to do with your body to stop the coughing," and he cried and went away.
Then a bishop came to see me. He looked at my body and he said, "There is no more place for one more scar on your body. You have suffered so much." And he cried. So when I say this, just because we follow Him with a cross on our shoulders, it doesn't mean that we will have no other problem. Exactly as the Lord Jesus Christ went through every affliction of humanity, you and I as servants of God go through the same kind of problems. But still, it doesn't look so heavy for you.
Sadhu Sundar Singh, the great man of God from India has said like this, "Lord, it's so joyful to take up Your cross and walk behind You. And if I go to heaven, and there is no cross to bear, I will ask the Lord Jesus Christ to send me as a missionary to hell so that I can go there bearing the cross of Christ."
So in this world, in your earnestness and in your eagerness to serve God, you may not feel the miseries that you go through, but God is full of compassion for His servants. So when you go to heaven, you will be so rewarded to see that you relax for every one of your suffering. So He doesn't keep His servants along